i recently read an interesting thread (is there a 'third' way to leave?
) that talked about fading instead of being df'd or da'd.
i myself had planned to fade, but was df'd instead.
I think it would be interesting for you to find out, but it wont change anything.
You could have been accused of apostasy or adultery by the husband and father, you were not on hand to make a defence, held as guilty in absence, guilt by not turning up... they do this because they are a kangaroo court, a law unto themselves.
Oz
yes, i said "still"..
No, I function just fine. never been more functional as a human being than now.
Oz
it may seem that some popular conspiracy theories have nothing to do with ending watchtower oppressions.
the matter is otherwise.. i would judge that most experienced posters here grow tired ( been there, done that) waiting for the watchtower to implode.
it seems as if, despite evidence of its decline, it manages to endure, however pathetically and will continue to do so, somehow.. maybe not.. besides certain legal issues (that could push it over a financial cliff), there are other matters, not in mainstream belief, that could quickly end it.
The WT would be able to spin any and all of them.
And there would still be enough people to agree
Oz
watchtower cult shuts down websites to coverup pedophilia letters.. http://www.cyberwarzone.com/watchtower-cult-shuts-down-websites-coverup-pedophilia-letters.
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bangalore.
ok phizzy, now you know you will be asked for that in writing don't you?...
Oz
long time lurker, first time poster.
i'm really glad i can join your community because i've been in the wts for the last 14 years and now i'm on my way out and it's great to meet like-minded people!.
about me: i started learning jw ways when i was in my teens.
welcome 'Julia from australia' (haha, you will be forever labelled thus)
Lots of great advice on what to do right and wrong in waking up your husband, reach out for it.
Oz from australia as well
please be honest....did love conquer it all?.
how did u make it work?.
Hi chichi89
first i cannot comment on JW marrying a non JW relationships, thats for others...
But I can comment on my experience...
I was DF in 2000 but until 2009/2010 i still believed they were 100% true even though i never went back. I remarried a girl while i was what is called an 'apologist' for the witnesses, that is, I still would defend them to anyone who dared mock them even though i was no longer one. She was never a christian. She challenged me (in good ways) to prove that what i believed made any more sense than her own veiws of life and the universe. I could not.
FIRST OFF: a partnership should not be based on two people believing the very same version of the very same fairy tale. Why should it matter if I beleve some 'god' made life and she believes that some 'universal consciousness' did so. What should it matter if I think God does not care and she says he does?
what matters is how two people treat each other, embracing each others differences not resenting them, and certainly NOT changing them.
Once you take religion out of the picture, once personal beliefs are non issues, you stand on the same footing as every one else on earth. Your relationship may survive the highs and lows of life or it may not.
Are you very young? Perhaps you are 18 or something and also think you have to get married to have a good relationship? That is a JW mindset...want sex, must marry or it is a sin...
Oz
edit: Oh, and yes, very happy. She is by far the most wonderful woman i have ever met. I married her because it was the best way i could show her family just how much she meant to me ( i was an avowed batchelor, never to remarry) sometimes i want to divorce her so that i can marry her all over again.
watchtower cult shuts down websites to coverup pedophilia letters.. http://www.cyberwarzone.com/watchtower-cult-shuts-down-websites-coverup-pedophilia-letters.
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bangalore.
Nothing on the linked sight can or does make claim to being by or from ex JWs. The site itself is dedicated to far far more than exposing the Watchtower.
One thing i noted when begining my journey from apologist for the WT to 'apostate' was that not everything written to expose the WT is true, or worded correctly, or accurate.
But an awful lot is.
There is far more to the whole child abuse issue than change name knows. In fact, there is so much that name change does not know about the WT and JWs that i think he/she should get baptized and hang with them for 30 years...then they will be able to tell us off with real experience and not presumptions and assumptions.
Oz
we'll see how long this lasts.... i'll write a chapter each day.
every day.. when there is nothing left to say.....it is over.. it could end up being a book nobody will every read.
or, it might be read by a few and it might mean something to somebody.
Group Number One are all the people who read and believed the teachings of Charles Taze Russell.
Group Number Two are all the people who came along after Judge Rutherford became President of the Society.
Group Number Three are the JW's under Nathan Knorr up to the year 1975.
Group Number Four are all the Jehovah's Witnesses post 1975 up to today.
Now here is the experiment. How many things do these vast groups of millions of Jehovah's true believers AGREE UPON AS THE TRUTH?
That is a mighty facinating thought to pursue...
oz
I see that you are worrying about it, and that is just what they have programmed you to do.
Armageddon has always been so close you can smell it (but only for 130 years now) so that JWs will be obediant little servants. No you are disfellowshipped they need you to be so panicked that it will come before you can get reinstated that you will rush back without even thinking whether you should. Then when you are back in, they will forever see you as one of those weak ones that might or might not make it.
Another thing to think about. Go find a scripture that says that disfellowshipped ones will die at armageddon...if it is not in the bible it is merely an opinion of men.
Oz
something happened recently by the wts.
that doesn't rarely often and that is the wts.
executive editors apologizing for the organization's past mistakes and proclamations.
They have never and will never make true apologies.
All they make is verbel posturings of self justification
oz
